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      <title>Amillenialism</title>
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        <p>I have been very hesitant to look into eschatology at all since leaving SDA, but recently I have listened to a series of lectures by Dr. Kim Riddlebarger (one of the co-hosts on White Horse Inn) entitled <a href="http://www.christreformed.org/mp3s-and-real-audio-of-academy/">Amillenialism 101</a> (about a quarter down the page). This was a huge blessing, and it actually made sense of the eschatology of the New Testament. He also does a great job explaining covenant theology in some of the early lectures. He explains the different positions fairly and gives his defense for reformed amillenialism. If you have the time I would recommend this series to any and all!
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Nate
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      <title>A PHARISEE AND A CALVINIST</title>
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        <p>Thabiti Anyabwile of the Pure Church blog wrote a recent piece here that is just priceless, and gives me a lot of food for thought. Sometimes we just have to be theologically correct. This is not wrong in itself, but we must be careful not to become too prideful.
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<a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/thabitianyabwile/2009/12/20/calvinist-confessions-1/">http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/thabitianyabwile/2009/12/20/calvinist-confessions-1/</a>
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The article appears below and I have highlighted in bold some of the points that spoke to me:
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<b>I’m a Pharisee. And I’m a Calvinist.
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Those things should not go together. But they do in far too many instances. The Calvinist should be the last to become a Pharisee. Our theology should keep us humble. Or, so we’re told.</b>
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But I’m a Pharisee. And I’m a Calvinist. Which means I’m a bad Calvinist.
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Here’s the first reason I’m a Pharisee and Calvinist, or, one reason why those two things happen together far more often than they should. <b>The Pharisee and the Calvinist are both exacting persons. They care about precision, about “getting things right.” They care about the letter because each believes getting the letter correct is important. And it is.</b>
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So, there is this “bent” toward intellectual things. There is this tendency to live in our heads. And when that meets with a theological tradition as rich and robust as the Reformed tradition, sparks fly–in our heads.<b> Add to that a pinch of argumentative spirit and out comes the Pharisee.</b>
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But you know what’s lost? The spirit, or the Spirit. Sometimes both. The letter kills. That’s what happens with us Calvinist Pharisees.
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<b>In my particular case, the letter became pretty important once I realized I had spent a few years of my life giving praise to an idol. Once I realized I had believed a lie and bowed to a god who was not God, well getting things correct theologically became desperately important. Who wants to “get it wrong” in the things of God? I certainly didn’t any longer</b>.
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I didn’t know it, but I began the Christian life with this impulse that could either help me grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, and/or push me into peevish, narrow, gnat straining regard for “getting it right.” I’ve experienced both in my Christian life. The difference is made by where you’re aiming: those who aim at knowing Jesus escape so much pharisee-ism; those that aim at “getting it right” become so much more Pharisaical.
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Perhaps you’re like me. You’ve had some experience that’s left you zealous for getting it right. You love the Book in part because you love parsing things, dissecting them, weighing them, identifying what is wanting, tossing the chaff and holding onto the wheat. There’s a joy that comes from discovery–and refutation. <b>Soon, you’re proud you’re not “one of those publicans” that explains the Trinity in loose language, that balks at giving various views of the atonement, that’s read the latest book from one of “those authors.” “Lord,” you pray, “I work to get it right. I avoid mistakes. I protect your word. I’m not like those who ‘happily’ accept ‘weak’ doctrine.”</b>
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Truthfully, it isn’t our theology that keeps us from the self-righteousness of the Pharisee. Our theology, and the smugness of “Reformed” correctness, are part of the problem. Oh, I don’t mean we have aberrant ideas mingled with our theological outlook. We’d never have that. I mean all this heady truth barely lights our hearts. Our theology becomes the handmaid of our pride and our empty orthodoxy. Our fine theological theorems too seldom ignite liberty, joy, love, or anything else that accompanies the Spirit. <b>Honestly, how often does your theology leave you with Jesus?</b>
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I know. The Lord reveals Himself in and by the word. The Spirit and the word belong together. Pharisee.
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<b>Do you remember that time when you were free? No, I mean happily care-free in your walk with the Lord. When there was lightness to everything?</b>
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Do you remember when you could share with others something God was teaching you, perhaps with imprecise language and a lot of enthusiasm, without first hesitating to make sure you were saying it “correctly”? Perhaps you were too liberal in assigning your enthusiasm or ideas to God, but you were happily excited about the possibility that indeed God had done something in you, for you, through you. Do you remember that?
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I do. It was before I was self-consciously “Reformed.” I didn’t have a label then, other than “Christian” or “Baptist.” Even those I held lightly. I was label-less, free. And I felt free. I did dumb stuff. I said dumber stuff. But people knew what I meant. Then I discovered what I meant, and knowing what I meant seemed to replace experiencing what I meant.
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Now, “experience” is a bad word. Pharisee.
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Yep. That’s me.
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<b>Don’t get me wrong. I’m a “Calvinist” because what we popularly call “Calvinism” or “Reformed Theology” looks a whole lot like what I understand from the Bible. I think that’s what the Bible teaches, and that’s what I believe. So, I’m comfortable with the label–if we have to use one. I’m just not comfortable with the self-righteousness I see all too often in my heart and life. I’m sure I was self-righteous before; after all, I was an adherent of the world’s largest works-based religion. Pride and self-justification have always been there. Yep. Certified Pharisee here.</b>
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<b>But here’s the bottom line: As long as my inclination toward detail ends with “getting it right” and not with getting more of Jesus, I’m going to be a Pharisee. Our theology doesn’t keep us humble. Jesus keeps us humble. I think there are a lot of Calvinist Pharisees out there, like me, who push deeper into the theology trusting the next truth to abase them before God. But we keep getting “puffed up” instead. Why? We settle for knowing more rather than knowing Jesus. We don’t stop to sit at Christ’s feet, to adore Him, to commune with God the Spirit. Far too often, that’s not the goal we have in mind.</b>
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<b>My grandmother couldn’t cite you two theological terms if you paid her. She probably never heard of the theological “giants” of church history, and certainly never read them. You know what she did? She “had a little talk with Jesus, told Him all about her troubles. He would hear her faintest cry, and answer by and by.” With all her “little talks with Jesus,” she had infinitely more than I’ve gotten from my books. She walked with the Lord about like Enoch.</b>
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I know. Books are not the enemy. Books are our friends. Communing with the saints is important. That’s how we get it right and avoid mistakes. I know. I know. Pharisee.
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There was another “Calvinist” (speaking anachronistically, of course) who won his bout with his inner Pharisee. <b>He wrote: “I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord” (Phil. 3:8). I want to be more like that brother–gripped by the greatness of knowing Jesus.
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Lord, let us know you and cease the pretension of Pharisees.</b>
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The author of the above piece was a Muslim at one time. I have always enjoyed reading his material.
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Stan
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    <entry>
      <title>Is Jesus the only way to be saved&#63;</title>
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        <p>I read an article today by Greg Koukl, host of the <i>Stand to Reason </i>radio show that addresses whether there are other ways to be saved than being in Christ.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s the article: <a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?news_iv_ctrl=-1&amp;amppage=NewsArticle&amp;ampid=9105">http://www.str.org/site/News2?news_iv_ctrl=-1&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=9105</a>
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It reminded me of discussions going on on another forum between Adventists and formers.&nbsp; There, and in my personal life dealing with Adventist family and friends, I&#8217;m having a hard time finding anyone willing to say, in effect, that Christ is the only way to salvation.&nbsp; They&#8217;ll say it&#8217;s because of Christ that these non-Christians will go to heaven but they don&#8217;t have to actually have faith in Christ to qualify.&nbsp; As long as you are &#8220;living up to the light you have&#8221; then this will somehow count at the end reckoning.&nbsp; It seems, perhaps, another indication that Adventism has become more and more liberal in its theology.&nbsp; I used to think this is was confined to Southern California and pockets near universities but it seems to be more widespread than that.&nbsp; Even my relatives who consider themselves conservative believe this way.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve heard this throughout my life growing up in the church, but that was also in &#8220;liberal&#8221; Southern California.
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But doesn&#8217;t this teaching actually do violence to the Gospel?&nbsp; Wouldn&#8217;t this teaching discourage the execution of the Great Commission if people were fine where they were as long as they were sincere?&nbsp; What does this do to the doctrine of imputation and what is required to satisfy the just wrath of a holy God?
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    <entry>
      <title>The Lure of Sabbath Deception</title>
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        <p>Are Christians who meet together to worship God on Sunday deceived? Historically, the Adventist church has answered this question in the affirmative. &#8220;Sunday-worshipers&#8221;, as they are often labeled by Adventists, are obviously misled because they ignore God&#8217;s clear command to worship on Saturday, citing the Fourth Commandment as evidence (Exodus 20:8-11). And if those who worship on Sunday are deceived, someone must be guilty of promoting this deception. As such, it is perhaps not surprising to see an Adventist conclude that Christians who believe the Fourth Commandment supports Sunday &#8220;Sabbath&#8221; observance are guilty of promoting great deception. This is sadly the conclusion of a recent  <i>Adventist Review</i> article by journalist <a href="http://www.kellner.us/" title="Mark Kellner">Mark Kellner</a> entitled <a href="http://www.adventistreview.org:80/issue.php?issue=2008-1522&amp;page=8" title="The Lure of Sabbath Deception">&#8220;The Lure of Sabbath Deception&#8221;</a>.
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The stimulus for Kellner&#8217;s article was a sermon series he heard on the radio by Alistair Begg, pastor of <a href="http://www.parksidechurch.com" title="Parkside Church">Parkside Church</a> near Cleveland, Ohio. In this series, Begg argued for a continuing role of the Old Testament Sabbath for Christians. Because Christians worship together on Sunday, Begg belives the Sabbath principle should continue to apply to this day. To an Adventist, Begg&#8217;s teaching is part of the great deception about the Sabbath that has been promoted in Christianity since the fourth century rule of the Roman emperor Constantine. Adventist prophetess Ellen White claimed that Christians would one day be tested on their loyalty to God on the basis of their day of worship—those who worship on Saturday will be eligible for heaven while those who worship on Sunday will not.
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Kellner revives this Adventist teaching in his criticism of Begg. &#8220;So how did [Begg] move from dogmatic insistence on honoring the fourth commandment to an about-face on the God-specified day?&#8221; Begg&#8217;s answer, of course, is that the day of worship was changed from Saturday to Sunday in the first century as a result of Jesus&#8217; Sunday resurrection. Striking at the heart of Adventism&#8217;s view of early Christian history, Begg stated that Constantine did not change the day of worship 300 years after Christ&#8217;s death, but merely endorsed a widespread and long-standing Christian practice. Kellner, obviously not moved by this argument but providing no evidence of his own, writes, &#8220;Such assertions, however, lack much in the way of actual historical proof...&#8221;. Nevermind that over one hundred years earlier, former Adventist preacher D.M. Canright provided <a href="http://members.tripod.com/~Help_for_SDAs/SDAism-RENOUNCED-by-D-M-Canright.html#Chapter-10" title="ample historical evidence">ample historical evidence</a> to support Begg&#8217;s conclusions.
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Not surprisingly, Begg reported receiving harsh criticism of his position from Adventists, some even accusing him of not being a Christian. Kellner casts doubt over the truthfulness of Begg&#8217;s account, saying, &#8220;...there’s little way of proving that such a charge was made&#8221;. Perhaps Kellner chose his words poorly, but the way the article reads, Begg&#8217;s honesty is at least implicitly questioned. Kellner proceeds to counter the Adventist criticism of Begg by citing the Adventist fundamental belief statement that &#8220;the universal church is composed of all who truly believe in Christ.&#8221;
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While Kellner is willing to give Begg the title of &#8220;Christian&#8221; with the one hand, he endeavors to take it away with the other. &#8220;To be sure, God will hold responsible those who don’t keep the Bible Sabbath when it is plainly revealed that Sundaykeeping is a counterfeit. But to multiple millions—and even perhaps to Alistair Begg himself—there is justification for ignoring the Bible’s clear command, at least for now.&#8221; It is left to the reader to decide whether Begg is really a Christian, but we can be sure that if he has ignored the Bible&#8217;s &#8220;clear command&#8221;, he will be &#8220;held responsible&#8221; for his actions. For those who know the Adventist version of end-time events, the underlying message is fairly obvious. If Begg rejects the teaching of God&#8217;s Word about the Sabbath when it becomes &#8220;plainly revealed&#8221;, he will receive the mark of the beast. The only hope is that God will not make Sunday &#8220;plainly revealed&#8221; as a &#8220;counterfeit&#8221; during his lifetime so that Begg won&#8217;t be held accountable for accepting  Satan&#8217;s false Sabbath and receive his mark.
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Turning his attention toward other Christian teachers, Kellner presses home his point. &#8220;...there is an added level of concern now—a lure, if you will, of deception about the Sabbath.&#8221; Listing a group of Christian authors who have written about the Sabbath as it applies to Sunday, Kellner claims that a great deception is unfolding before our eyes. Satan is using these Christian authors to lure more people into false Sabbath worship so that apparently, more people will be lost by receiving his mark. In a sarcastic tone, Kellner singles out the noted Christian author Marva Dawn. &#8220;The lures posed by radio expounders such as Begg, Tony Evans of the Urban Alternative, and some Christian authors—including Marva Dawn (author of several books on &#8216;keeping Sabbath&#8217; without keeping the Sabbath)—appear to be that one can freely choose how to observe a commandment of God without adhering to what God dictates.&#8221; Using the same logic, an orthodox Jew could just as easily include Kellner among a list of authors who write about the Sabbath without actually keeping it the way God prescribed. One wonders what Kellner does with the very clear <a href="http://www.forthegospel.org/articles/law_and_gospel_part_iv" title="list of instructions">list of commands</a> God gave to the Israelites about how the Sabbath was to be observed, much less the commands to observe festivals and holy days.
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Concluding the article, Kellner leaves his audience with the take-home message. What are we to do with this growing evangelical Christian interest in Sabbath—interest that is clothed in the world&#8217;s greatest deception? &#8220;The opportunity for Adventists, in their words and in their living witness, is to present Sabbath, and Sabbathkeeping, as not only delightful, but attractive. It may surprise many to see who shows up when we treat the Sabbath as a true delight, and share that delight with the world.&#8221; The centerpiece of Adventist evangelism is here on vivid display—it is all about the Sabbath. Non-Christians and Christians alike need this precious message, because without it, they may stand condemned. If the Sabbath is made attractive enough, people will begin to realize that they should be keeping it and thereby avoid God&#8217;s condemnation.
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It&#8217;s tragic, but what&#8217;s missing from all of this is Jesus. If only Adventists had the same zeal for converting people to Christ that they have for converting them to a day of worship. Sadly, the most precious message of Christianity has been replaced in Adventism by the worship of a day. The day was never meant to be the object of worship or the dividing line between believers, but a sign pointing the way to Jesus, who deserves all worship. &#8220;Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.&#8221; (Colossians 2:16-17, see also Romans 14:5-6) The apostle Paul&#8217;s teaching is straightforward. All who would divide the body of Christ over a day of worship have missed his point. While Christians hold fast to the substance of Christ, Adventists continue to direct people to his shadow and in so doing, risk missing the Savior who can redeem them from their sin, even their sin of imperfect Sabbath-keeping.
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      <title>Is Hell Eternal&#63;</title>
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        <p>Hi everyone,
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On FAF we had a stimulating discussion on hell at this link:
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<a href="http://64.227.85.187/discus/messages/11/4437.html?1152752114">http://64.227.85.187/discus/messages/11/4437.html?1152752114</a>
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During the course of that discussion I realized that I had never studied this doctrine thoroughly before, and now I am in the process of doing that. Also, during the course of that discussion, Richard (aka deadmanwalking) on FAF posted a link to an article by Dr. Mark Talbot defending the traditional orthodox doctrine of eternal hell linked here:
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 <a href="http://www.the-highway.com/articleMay05.html">http://www.the-highway.com/articleMay05.html</a>
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While reading that article, I was amazed by a statement by Dr. Talbot, that there was a respected Reformed scholar named Dr. Philip Edgcumbe Hughes,( who taught at Westminster Theological Seminary in the 1980&#8217;s, and he has since gone to be with the Lord in 1990), but that he had good Biblical arguments for eventual annihilation of the wicked. Dr. Talbot is quoted from that article here:
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&#8220;Theologically, a lot hangs on whether our sins merit everlasting punishment, including part of the answer to the question why only God incarnate could make adequate atonement for our sins. Yet the exegetical considerations advanced by Stott, Hughes, and others against the traditional doctrine are not so far-fetched that they can be rejected out of hand.6 A convincing defense of the traditional doctrine needs, then, to address the sorts of wider considerations that have prompted sincere believers like Stott and Hughes to depart from the plain meaning of the biblical texts. I do that here by arguing that the never-ending torment of the impenitent is moral in the sense of serving a just and proper end.&#8221;
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Then if you go to the author&#8217;s footnote number 6 listed above, you find Dr. Talbot saying:
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&#8220;In my judgment, the exegetical considerations supporting the traditional doctrine are somewhat better than those against it.&#8221; See, for instance, Kendall S. Harmon, &#8220;The Case Against Conditionalism: A response to Edward William Fudge,&#8221; in Cameron, ed., op. cit.&#8221;
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So, if even an author who is making a good case for eternal punishment, can show enough grace to say that the exegetical considerations are only somewhat better for his position than those who disagree with him, then I can hardly see an argument for dividing with other Christians over this issue.
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I purchased the book by Dr. Hughes entitled &#8220;The True Image: The Origin and Destiny of Man in Christ&#8221;. It can be purchased here:
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It is a well written book on systematic theology as well as church history. J.I. Packer endorses the book with the following: &#8220;In this wide-ranging biblical, historical, and theological study a versatile veteran makes convincing use of the concept of the divine image to integrate the doctrines of man and Christ. His biblical bases are solid, his expositions weighty, and his historical interactions judicious and enlightening. This is a very valuable piece of work&#8221;
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Sinclair B. Ferguson, a former colleague of Hughes while teaching at Westminster Theological Seminary also endorsed the book as follows: &#8220;We have come to expect both solid learning and exquisite literary style from Philip E. Hughes. &#8220;The True Image&#8217; is no exception. Indeed it is a remarkable piece of work, quarried from a lifetime of study in Biblical exegesis, systematic theology, and church history. It is encyclopedic in its discussion of anthropology and Christology and their mutual relationship. The novitiate will find it instructive, while the theologically advanced will discover comprehensive exposition married to a scholarly judgment that sometimes resurrects classical views, sometimes provides the unexpected, and on occasion surprises with the controversial.&#8221;
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I am sure that last statement refers to Hughes views on eventual annihilation. However, it should be remembered that Hughes view is not similar to the SDA view in many ways. He clearly is orthodox on the view of the human spirit, and he believes in the intermediate state, and not soul sleep. He does believe that Jesus&#8217; parable in Luke 16 speaks of the wicked in chains waiting the final judgment, depicts accurately the doctrine of Hades. His contention is that in the new heavens and new earth, Death and Hades will be cast finally into the Lake of fire and destroyed completely.
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I think his arguments are well worth considering, and comparing with more traditional views. That is why I decided to take the time to type chapter 37 that deals with this topic and present it for your consideration. I haven&#8217;t finally made up my mind on this, but at least I am less dogmatic than before after studying this scholar&#8217;s arguments.
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Stan
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      <title>What the Bible teaches about spirits, death, and Hell</title>
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        <p>Well, it&#8217;s taken me more than 2 weeks, but I have finally finished compiling a list of Biblical passages which teach the 6 points that I posted earlier, in the &#8220;Is Hell Eternal?&#8221; thread, in the following post: <a href="http://www.forthegospel.org/forum/viewreply/7064/">http://www.forthegospel.org/forum/viewreply/7064/</a>. I tried to be quite thorough, but I am certainly not going to claim that this is is by any means a complete or exhaustive list of passages which prove these points. You will notice that I edited the points slightly to include &#8220;souls&#8221; along with &#8220;spirits.&#8221;
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I have to post this list in multiple posts, due to the length being over the character limit per post.
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Abbreviations used:
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&#8220;Heb.&#8221; = Hebrew
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&#8220;Gr.&#8221; = Greek
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&#8220;lit.&#8221; = literally
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<b>1. Man was created in the image of God with an immaterial spirit/soul (within the material body):</b>
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<blockquote><p>Genesis 1:27: &#8220;God created [Heb. &#8221;<i>bara</i>&#8221;] man in His own image, in the image of God He created [Heb. &#8221;<i>bara</i>&#8221;] him; male and female He created [Heb. &#8221;<i>bara</i>&#8221;] them.&#8221; (NASB.) cf. John 4:24: &#8220;God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.&#8221; (NASB.) cf. Genesis 2:7: &#8220;Then the LORD God formed [Heb. &#8221;<i>yatsar</i>&#8221;] man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Genesis 2:16-17: &#8220;The LORD God commanded the man, saying, &#8216;From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 
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 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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Genesis 6:3: &#8220;Then the LORD said, &#8216;My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he <b><u>also</u></b> is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Genesis 27:4 (also in verses 19, 25, 31): &#8220;and prepare a savory dish for me such as I love, and bring it to me that I may eat, so that my soul may bless you before I die.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Genesis 34:3, 8: &#8220;And his soul was drawn to Dinah the daughter of Jacob. He loved the young woman and spoke tenderly to her. [...] But Hamor spoke with them, saying, &#8216;The soul of my son Shechem longs for your daughter. Please give her to him to be his wife.&#8221; (ESV.)
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Genesis 41:8: &#8220;Now in the morning his spirit was troubled, so he sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all its wise men. And Pharaoh told them his dreams, but there was no one who could interpret them to Pharaoh.&#8221; (NASB.)
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Genesis 42:21: &#8220;Then they said to one another, &#8216;Truly we are guilty concerning our brother, because we saw the distress of his soul when he pleaded with us, yet we would not listen; therefore this distress has come upon us.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Genesis 45:27: &#8220;When they told him all the words of Joseph that he had spoken to them, and when he saw the wagons that Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of their father Jacob revived.&#8221;
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<p>
Genesis 49:6: &#8220;Let my soul not enter into their council;
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         Let not my glory be united with their assembly;
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         Because in their anger they slew men,
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         And in their self-will they lamed oxen.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Exodus 35:21: &#8220;Everyone whose heart stirred him and everyone whose spirit moved him came and brought the LORD&#8217;S contribution for the work of the tent of meeting and for all its service and for the holy garments.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Leviticus 16:29, 31: &#8220;&#8216;This shall be a permanent statute for you: in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble your souls and not do any work, whether the native, or the alien who sojourns among you; [...] &#8216;It is to be a sabbath of solemn rest for you, that you may humble your souls; it is a permanent statute.&#8221; (NASB.)
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Leviticus 19:28 (also in 21:1): &#8220;&#8216;You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead [lit. &#8220;soul"] nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Leviticus 26:15-16: &#8220;if, instead, you reject My statutes, and if your soul abhors My ordinances so as not to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant, 
<br />
 I, in turn, will do this to you: I will appoint over you a sudden terror, consumption and fever that will waste away the eyes and cause the soul to pine away; also, you will sow your seed uselessly, for your enemies will eat it up.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Leviticus 26:43: &#8220;&#8216;For the land will be abandoned by them, and will make up for its sabbaths while it is made desolate without them. They, meanwhile, will be making amends for their iniquity, because they rejected My ordinances and their soul abhorred My statutes.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Numbers 16:22: &#8220;But they fell on their faces and said, &#8216;O God, God of the spirits of all flesh, when one man sins, will You be angry with the entire congregation?&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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Numbers 21:4-5: &#8220;Then they journeyed from Mount Hor by the Way of the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom; and the soul of the people became very discouraged on the way. And the people spoke against God and against Moses: &#8216;Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.&#8217;&#8221; (NKJV.)
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<p>
Numbers 27:16: &#8220;May the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, appoint a man over the congregation,&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Deuteronomy 2:30: &#8220;But Sihon king of Heshbon was not willing for us to pass through his land; for the LORD your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, in order to deliver him into your hand, as he is today.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 4:29: &#8220;&#8216;But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 6:5: &#8220;&#8216;You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 10:12: &#8220;&#8216;Now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require from you, but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways and love Him, and to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul,&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 11:13, 18: &#8220;&#8216;It shall come about, if you listen obediently to my commandments which I am commanding you today, to love the LORD your God and to serve Him with all your heart and all your soul, [...] &#8216;You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead.&#8221; (NASB.)
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Deuteronomy 12:15, 20-21: &#8220;Notwithstanding thou mayest kill and eat flesh in all thy gates, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee: the unclean and the clean may eat thereof, as of the roebuck, and as of the hart. [...] When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after. If the place which the LORD thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the LORD hath given thee, as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.&#8221; (KJV.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 13:3: &#8220;you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 14:26: &#8220;And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,&#8221; (KJV.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 26:16: &#8220;&#8216;This day the LORD your God commands you to do these statutes and ordinances. You shall therefore be careful to do them with all your heart and with all your soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 28:65: &#8220;&#8216;Among those nations you shall find no rest, and there will be no resting place for the sole of your foot; but there the LORD will give you a trembling heart, failing of eyes, and despair of soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Deuteronomy 30:2, 6, 10: &#8220;and you return to the LORD your God and obey Him with all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, [...] &#8216;Moreover the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, so that you may live. [...] if you obey the LORD your God to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Joshua 22:5: &#8220;&#8216;Only be very careful to observe the commandment and the law which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you, to love the LORD your God and walk in all His ways and keep His commandments and hold fast to Him and serve Him with all your heart and with all your soul.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Joshua 23:14: &#8220;&#8216;Now behold, today I am going the way of all the earth, and you know in all your hearts and in all your souls that not one word of all the good words which the LORD your God spoke concerning you has failed; all have been fulfilled for you, not one of them has failed.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Judges 5:21: &#8220;&#8216;The torrent of Kishon swept them away,
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         The ancient torrent, the torrent Kishon.
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         O my soul, march on with strength.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Judges 16:16: &#8220;It came about when she pressed him daily with her words and urged him, that his soul was annoyed to death.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
1 Samuel 1:10: &#8220;And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed to the LORD and wept in anguish.&#8221; (NKVJ.)
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<p>
1 Samuel 1:15: &#8220;But Hannah replied, &#8216;No, my lord, I am a woman oppressed in spirit; I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but I have poured out my soul before the LORD.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Samuel 2:16: &#8220;And if any man said unto him, Let them not fail to burn the fat presently, and then take as much as thy soul desireth; then he would answer him, Nay; but thou shalt give it me now: and if not, I will take it by force.&#8221; (KJV.)
</p>
<p>
1 Samuel 2:33: &#8220;&#8216;Yet I will not cut off every man of yours from My altar so that your eyes will fail from weeping and your soul grieve, and all the increase of your house will die in the prime of life.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Samuel 18:1: &#8220;Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself.&#8221; (NASB.)
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1 Samuel 20:4: &#8220;Then said Jonathan unto David, Whatsoever thy soul desireth, I will even do it for thee.&#8221; (KJV.)
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<p>
1 Samuel 23:20: &#8220;&#8216;Now then, O king, come down according to all the desire of your soul to do so; and our part shall be to surrender him into the king&#8217;s hand.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Samuel 30:6: &#8220;Now David was greatly distressed, for the people spoke of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and his daughters. But David strengthened himself in the LORD his God.&#8221; (NKJV.)
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<p>
2 Samuel 1:9: &#8220;&#8216;And he saith unto me, Stand, I pray thee, over me, and put me to death, for seized me hath the arrow, for all my soul [is] still in me.&#8221; (YLT.)
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2 Samuel 3:21: &#8220;Abner said to David, &#8216;Let me arise and go and gather all Israel to my lord the king, that they may make a covenant with you, and that you may be king over all that your soul desires.&#8217; So David sent Abner away, and he went in peace.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
2 Samuel 5:8: &#8220;David said on that day, &#8216;Whoever would strike the Jebusites, let him reach the lame and the blind, who are hated by David&#8217;s soul, through the water tunnel.&#8217; Therefore they say, &#8216;The blind or the lame shall not come into the house.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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2 Samuel 11:11: &#8220;Uriah said to David, &#8216;The ark and Israel and Judah are staying in temporary shelters, and my lord Joab and the servants of my lord are camping in the open field. Shall I then go to my house to eat and to drink and to lie with my wife? By your life and the life of your soul, I will not do this thing.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Kings 2:4: &#8220;so that the LORD may carry out His promise which He spoke concerning me, saying, &#8216;If your sons are careful of their way, to walk before Me in truth with all their heart and with all their soul, you shall not lack a man on the throne of Israel.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
1 Kings 8:48 (repeated in 2 Chronicles 6:38): &#8220;if they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Kings 11:37: &#8220;And I will take thee, and thou shalt reign according to all that thy soul desireth, and shalt be king over Israel.&#8221; (KJV.)
</p>
<p>
1 Kings 21:5: &#8220;But Jezebel his wife came to him and said to him, &#8216;How is it that your spirit is so sullen that you are not eating food?&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
2 Kings 4:27: &#8220;When she came to the man of God to the hill, she caught hold of his feet. And Gehazi came near to push her away; but the man of God said, &#8216;Let her alone, for her soul is troubled within her; and the LORD has hidden it from me and has not told me.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
2 Kings 23:3 (repeated in 2 Chronicles 34:31), 25: &#8220;The king stood by the pillar and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep His commandments and His testimonies and His statutes with all his heart and all his soul, to carry out the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people entered into the covenant. [...] Before him there was no king like him who turned to the LORD with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; nor did any like him arise after him.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Chronicles 5:26: &#8220;So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul, king of Assyria, even the spirit of Tilgath-pilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away into exile, namely the Reubenites, the Gadites and the half-tribe of Manasseh, and brought them to Halah, Habor, Hara and to the river of Gozan, to this day.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
1 Chronicles 22:19: &#8220;&#8216;Now set your heart and your soul to seek the LORD your God; arise, therefore, and build the sanctuary of the LORD God, so that you may bring the ark of the covenant of the LORD and the holy vessels of God into the house that is to be built for the name of the LORD.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
2 Chronicles 15:12: &#8220;They entered into the covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and soul;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
2 Chronicles 36:22 (repeated in Ezra 1:1): &#8220;Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia--in order to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah--the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying,&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Ezra 1:5: &#8220;Then the heads of fathers&#8217; households of Judah and Benjamin and the priests and the Levites arose, even everyone whose spirit God had stirred to go up and rebuild the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem.&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Esther 4:13: &#8220;and Mordecai speaketh to send back unto Esther: &#8216;Do not think in thy soul to be delivered [in] the house of the king, more than all the Jews,&#8221; (YLT.)
</p>
<p>
Job 3:20: &#8220;&#8216;Why is light given to him who suffers,
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         And life to the bitter of soul,&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 4:15-19: &#8220;Then a spirit passed by my face;
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         The hair of my flesh bristled up. 
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    &#8216;It stood still, but I could not discern its appearance;
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         A form was before my eyes;
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         There was silence, then I heard a voice: 
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    &#8216;Can mankind be just before God?
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         Can a man be pure before his Maker? 
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    &#8216;He puts no trust even in His servants;
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         And against His angels He charges error. 
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    &#8216;How much more those who <b>dwell in houses of clay</b>,
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         Whose foundation is in the dust,
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         Who are crushed before the moth!&#8221; (NASB.)
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<p>
Job 6:4, 7: &#8220;For the arrows of the Almighty are within me,
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         Their poison my spirit drinks;
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         The terrors of God are arrayed against me. [...] &#8216;My soul refuses to touch them;
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         They are like loathsome food to me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 7:11, 15: &#8220;Therefore I will not restrain my mouth;
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         I will speak in the anguish of my spirit,
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         I will complain in the bitterness of my soul. [...] So that my soul would choose suffocation,
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         Death rather than my pains.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 10:1: &#8220;&#8216;My soul loathes my life;
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      I will give free course to my complaint, 
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      I will speak in the bitterness of my soul.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Job 10:12: &#8220;&#8216;You have granted me life and lovingkindness;
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         And Your care has preserved my spirit.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 14:22: &#8220;Only&#8212;his flesh for him is pained, And his soul for him doth mourn.&#8217;&#8221; (YLT.)
</p>
<p>
Job 15:12-13: &#8220;Why does your heart carry you away?
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         And why do your eyes flash, 
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    That you should turn your spirit against God
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         And allow such words to go out of your mouth?&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 19:2: &#8220;&#8216;How long will you torment my soul,
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      And break me in pieces with words?&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Job 21:25: &#8220;While another dies with a bitter soul,
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         Never even tasting anything good.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 24:12: &#8220;&#8216;From the city men groan,
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         And the souls of the wounded cry out;
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         Yet God does not pay attention to folly.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 27:2: &#8220;&#8216;As God lives, who has taken away my right,
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         And the Almighty, who has embittered my soul,&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 30:16, 25: &#8220;&#8216;And now my soul is poured out within me;
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         Days of affliction have seized me. [...] &#8216;Have I not wept for the one whose life is hard?
<br />
         Was not my soul grieved for the needy?&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Job 32:8, 18: &#8220;But there is a spirit in man,
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      And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding. [...] For I am full of words;
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      The spirit within me compels me.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Job 33:18-22, 24, 28-30: &#8220;He keeps back his soul from the Pit,
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      And his life from perishing by the sword.
<br />
 &#8216;Man is also chastened with pain on his bed,
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      And with strong pain in many of his bones,
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 So that his life abhors bread,
<br />
      And his soul succulent food.
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 His flesh wastes away from sight,
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      And his bones stick out which once were not seen.
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 Yes, his soul draws near the Pit,
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      And his life to the executioners. [...] Then He is gracious to him, and says,
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      &#8216;Deliver him from going down to the Pit; 
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      I have found a ransom&#8217;; [...] He will redeem his soul from going down to the Pit,
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      And his life shall see the light.
<br />
 &#8216;Behold, God works all these things,
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      Twice, in fact, three times with a man,
<br />
 To bring back his soul from the Pit,
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      That he may be enlightened with the light of life.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Job 38:36: &#8220;Who has put wisdom in the innermost being
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         Or given understanding to the mind?&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 6:2-3: &#8220;Have mercy on me, O LORD, for I am weak;
<br />
         O LORD, heal me, for my bones are troubled.
<br />
 My soul also is greatly troubled;
<br />
         But You, O LORD—how long?&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 10:3: &#8220;Because the wicked hath boasted Of the desire of his soul, And a dishonest gainer he hath blessed, He hath despised Jehovah.&#8221; (YLT.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 11:1: &#8220;In the LORD I take refuge;
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         How can you say to my soul, &#8216;Flee as a bird to your mountain;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 13:2: &#8220;How long shall I take counsel in my soul,
<br />
         Having sorrow in my heart all the day?
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         How long will my enemy be exalted over me?&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 16:10: &#8220;For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
<br />
         Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 19:7: &#8220;The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul;
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         The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 23:3: &#8220;He restores my soul;
<br />
         He guides me in the paths of righteousness
<br />
         For His name&#8217;s sake.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 24:4: &#8220;He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
<br />
         Who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood
<br />
         And has not sworn deceitfully.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 25:1, 13, 20: &#8220;To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul. [...] His soul will abide in prosperity,
<br />
         And his descendants will inherit the land. [...] Guard my soul and deliver me;
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         Do not let me be ashamed, for I take refuge in You.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 26:9: &#8220;Do not take my soul away along with sinners,
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         Nor my life with men of bloodshed,&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 31:5, 7, 9: &#8220;Into Your hand I commit my spirit;
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         You have ransomed me, O LORD, God of truth. [...] I will rejoice and be glad in Your lovingkindness,
<br />
         Because You have seen my affliction;
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         You have known the troubles of my soul, [...] Be gracious to me, O LORD, for I am in distress;
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         My eye is wasted away from grief, my soul and my body also.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 32:2: &#8220;How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity,
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         And in whose spirit there is no deceit!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 33:19-20: &#8220;To deliver their soul from death
<br />
         And to keep them alive in famine. 
<br />
    Our soul waits for the LORD;
<br />
         He is our help and our shield.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 34:2, 22: &#8220;My soul will make its boast in the LORD;
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         The humble will hear it and rejoice. [...] The LORD redeems the soul of His servants,
<br />
         And none of those who take refuge in Him will be condemned.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 35:3, 7-9, 12-13, 17:"Draw also the spear and the battle-axe to meet those who pursue me;
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         Say to my soul, &#8216;I am your salvation.&#8217; [...] For without cause they hid their net for me;
<br />
         Without cause they dug a pit for my soul. 
<br />
    Let destruction come upon him unawares,
<br />
         And let the net which he hid catch himself;
<br />
         Into that very destruction let him fall. 
<br />
    And my soul shall rejoice in the LORD;
<br />
         It shall exult in His salvation. [...] They repay me evil for good,
<br />
         To the bereavement of my soul. 
<br />
    But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth;
<br />
         I humbled my soul with fasting,
<br />
         And my prayer kept returning to my bosom. [...] Lord, how long will You look on?
<br />
         Rescue my soul from their ravages,
<br />
         My only life from the lions.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 41:4: &#8220;As for me, I said, &#8216;O LORD, be gracious to me;
<br />
         Heal my soul, for I have sinned against You.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 42:1-2, 4-7, 11: &#8220;As the deer pants for the water brooks,
<br />
         So my soul pants for You, O God. 
<br />
    My soul thirsts for God, for the living God;
<br />
         When shall I come and appear before God? [...] These things I remember and I pour out my soul within me 
<br />
         For I used to go along with the throng and lead them in procession to the house of God,
<br />
         With the voice of joy and thanksgiving, a multitude keeping festival. 
<br />
    Why are you in despair, O my soul?
<br />
         And why have you become disturbed within me?
<br />
         Hope in God, for I shall again praise Him
<br />
         For the help of His presence. 
<br />
    O my God, my soul is in despair within me;
<br />
         Therefore I remember You from the land of the Jordan
<br />
         And the peaks of Hermon, from Mount Mizar. 
<br />
    Deep calls to deep at the sound of Your waterfalls;
<br />
         All Your breakers and Your waves have rolled over me. [...] Why are you in despair, O my soul?
<br />
         And why have you become disturbed within me?
<br />
         Hope in God, for I shall yet praise Him,
<br />
         The help of my countenance and my God.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 43:5: &#8220;Why are you in despair, O my soul?
<br />
         And why are you disturbed within me?
<br />
         Hope in God, for I shall again praise Him,
<br />
         The help of my countenance and my God.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 44:25: &#8220;For our soul has sunk down into the dust;
<br />
         Our body cleaves to the earth.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 51:6, 10: &#8220;Behold, You desire truth in the innermost being,
<br />
         And in the hidden part You will make me know wisdom. [...] Create in me a clean heart, O God,
<br />
         And renew a steadfast spirit within me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 56:13: &#8220;For You have delivered my soul from death,
<br />
         Indeed my feet from stumbling,
<br />
         So that I may walk before God
<br />
         In the light of the living.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 57:1, 6: &#8220;Be gracious to me, O God, be gracious to me,
<br />
         For my soul takes refuge in You;
<br />
         And in the shadow of Your wings I will take refuge
<br />
         Until destruction passes by. [...] They have prepared a net for my steps;
<br />
         My soul is bowed down;
<br />
         They dug a pit before me;
<br />
         They themselves have fallen into the midst of it. Selah.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 62:1, 5: &#8220;My soul waits in silence for God only;
<br />
         From Him is my salvation. [...] My soul, wait in silence for God only,
<br />
         For my hope is from Him.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 63:1, 5, 8: &#8220;O God, You are my God; I shall seek You earnestly;
<br />
         My soul thirsts for You, my flesh yearns for You,
<br />
         In a dry and weary land where there is no water. [...] My soul is satisfied as with marrow and fatness,
<br />
         And my mouth offers praises with joyful lips. [...] My soul clings to You;
<br />
         Your right hand upholds me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 69:10, 18: &#8220;When I wept in my soul with fasting,
<br />
         It became my reproach. [...] Oh draw near to my soul and redeem it;
<br />
         Ransom me because of my enemies!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 71:23: &#8220;My lips will shout for joy when I sing praises to You;
<br />
         And my soul, which You have redeemed.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 77:2, 3, 6: &#8220;In the day of my trouble I sought the Lord;
<br />
         In the night my hand was stretched out [a]without weariness;
<br />
         My soul refused to be comforted. 
<br />
    When I remember God, then I am disturbed;
<br />
         When I sigh, then my spirit grows faint. Selah. [...] I will remember my song in the night;
<br />
         I will meditate with my heart,
<br />
         And my spirit ponders:&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 78:8: &#8220;And not be like their fathers,
<br />
         A stubborn and rebellious generation,
<br />
         A generation that did not prepare its heart
<br />
         And whose spirit was not faithful to God.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 84:2: &#8220;My soul longed and even yearned for the courts of the LORD;
<br />
         My heart and my flesh sing for joy to the living God.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 86:4: &#8220;Make glad the soul of Your servant,
<br />
         For to You, O Lord, I lift up my soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 94:19: &#8220;When my anxious thoughts multiply within me,
<br />
         Your consolations delight my soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 103:1-2, 22: &#8220;Bless the LORD, O my soul,
<br />
         And all that is within me, bless His holy name. 
<br />
    Bless the LORD, O my soul,
<br />
         And forget none of His benefits; [...] Bless the LORD, all you works of His,
<br />
         In all places of His dominion;
<br />
         Bless the LORD, O my soul!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 104:1, 35: &#8220;Bless the LORD, O my soul!
<br />
         O LORD my God, You are very great;
<br />
         You are clothed with splendor and majesty, [...] Let sinners be consumed from the earth
<br />
         And let the wicked be no more 
<br />
         Bless the LORD, O my soul 
<br />
         Praise the LORD!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 107:18, 26: &#8220;Their soul abhorred all kinds of food,
<br />
         And they drew near to the gates of death. [...] They rose up to the heavens, they went down to the depths;
<br />
         Their soul melted away in their misery.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 116:7-8: &#8220;Return to your rest, O my soul,
<br />
         For the LORD has dealt bountifully with you. 
<br />
    For You have rescued my soul from death,
<br />
         My eyes from tears,
<br />
         My feet from stumbling.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 119:20, 25, 28, 81, 129, 167, 175: &#8220;My soul is crushed with longing
<br />
         After Your ordinances at all times. [...] My soul cleaves to the dust;
<br />
         Revive me according to Your word. [...] My soul weeps because of grief;
<br />
         Strengthen me according to Your word. [...] My soul languishes for Your salvation;
<br />
         I wait for Your word. [...] Your testimonies are wonderful;
<br />
         Therefore my soul observes them. [...] My soul keeps Your testimonies,
<br />
         And I love them exceedingly. [...] Let my soul live that it may praise You,
<br />
         And let Your ordinances help me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 123:4: &#8220;Our soul is greatly filled
<br />
         With the scoffing of those who are at ease,
<br />
         And with the contempt of the proud.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 130:5-6: &#8220;I wait for the LORD, my soul does wait,
<br />
         And in His word do I hope. 
<br />
    My soul waits for the Lord
<br />
         More than the watchmen for the morning;
<br />
         Indeed, more than the watchmen for the morning.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 131:2: &#8220;Surely I have composed and quieted my soul;
<br />
         Like a weaned child rests against his mother,
<br />
         My soul is like a weaned child within me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 138:3: &#8220;On the day I called, You answered me;
<br />
         You made me bold with strength in my soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psqalm 139:14: &#8220;I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
<br />
         Wonderful are Your works,
<br />
         And my soul knows it very well.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 142:3, 7: &#8220;When my spirit was overwhelmed within me,
<br />
         You knew my path 
<br />
         In the way where I walk
<br />
         They have hidden a trap for me. [...] Bring my soul out of prison,
<br />
         So that I may give thanks to Your name;
<br />
         The righteous will surround me,
<br />
         For You will deal bountifully with me.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 143:3-4, 6-8: &#8220;For the enemy has persecuted my soul;
<br />
         He has crushed my life to the ground;
<br />
         He has made me dwell in dark places, like those who have long been dead. 
<br />
    Therefore my spirit is overwhelmed within me;
<br />
         My heart is appalled within me. [...] I stretch out my hands to You;
<br />
         My soul longs for You, as a parched land. Selah. 
<br />
    Answer me quickly, O LORD, my spirit fails;
<br />
         Do not hide Your face from me,
<br />
         Or I will become like those who go down to the pit. 
<br />
    Let me hear Your lovingkindness in the morning;
<br />
         For I trust in You;
<br />
         Teach me the way in which I should walk;
<br />
         For to You I lift up my soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Psalm 146:1: &#8220;Praise the LORD!
<br />
         Praise the LORD, O my soul!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 2:10: &#8220;For wisdom will enter your heart
<br />
         And knowledge will be pleasant to your soul;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 3:21-22: &#8220;My son, let them not vanish from your sight;
<br />
         Keep sound wisdom and discretion, 
<br />
    So they will be life to your soul
<br />
         And adornment to your neck.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 11:17: &#8220;The merciful man does good for his own soul, 
<br />
      But he who is cruel troubles his own flesh.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 11:30: &#8220;The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life,
<br />
         And he who is wise wins souls.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 13:19: &#8220;Desire realized is sweet to the soul,
<br />
         But it is an abomination to fools to turn away from evil.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 15:4, 13: &#8220;A soothing tongue is a tree of life,
<br />
         But perversion in it crushes the spirit. [...] A joyful heart makes a cheerful face,
<br />
         But when the heart is sad, the spirit is broken.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 16:24, 32: &#8220;Pleasant words are a honeycomb,
<br />
         Sweet to the soul and healing to the bones. [...] He who is slow to anger is better than the mighty,
<br />
         And he who rules his spirit, than he who captures a city.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 18:14: &#8220;The spirit of a man can endure his sickness,
<br />
         But as for a broken spirit who can bear it?&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 20:27, 30: &#8220;The spirit of man is the lamp of the LORD,
<br />
         Searching all the innermost parts of his being. [...] Stripes that wound scour away evil,
<br />
         And strokes reach the innermost parts.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 21:10: &#8220;The soul of the wicked desires evil;
<br />
         His neighbor finds no favor in his eyes.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 23:7: &#8220;For as he hath thought in his soul, so [is] he, &#8216;Eat and drink,&#8217; saith he to thee, And his heart [is] not with thee.&#8221; (YLT.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 24:12-14: &#8220;If you say, &#8216;See, we did not know this,&#8217;
<br />
         Does He not consider it who weighs the hearts?
<br />
         And does He not know it who keeps your soul?
<br />
         And will He not render to man according to his work? 
<br />
    My son, eat honey, for it is good,
<br />
         Yes, the honey from the comb is sweet to your taste; 
<br />
    Know that wisdom is thus for your soul;
<br />
         If you find it, then there will be a future,
<br />
         And your hope will not be cut off.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 25:13, 28: &#8220;Like the cold of snow in the time of harvest
<br />
         Is a faithful messenger to those who send him,
<br />
         For he refreshes the soul of his masters. [...] Like a city that is broken into and without walls
<br />
         Is a man who has no control over his spirit.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 28:25: &#8220;Whoso is proud in soul stirreth up contention, And whoso is trusting on Jehovah is made fat.&#8221; (YLT.)
</p>
<p>
Proverbs 29:17: &#8220;Correct your son, and he will give you comfort;
<br />
         He will also delight your soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Ecclesiastes 3:21: &#8220;Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?&#8221; (ESV.)
</p>
<p>
Ecclesiastes 6:2-3, 9: &#8220;a man to whom God has given riches and wealth and honor so that his soul lacks nothing of all that he desires; yet God has not empowered him to eat from them, for a foreigner enjoys them. This is vanity and a severe affliction. 
<br />
 If a man fathers a hundred children and lives many years, however many they be, but his soul is not satisfied with good things and he does not even have a proper burial, then I say, &#8216;Better the miscarriage than he, [...] What the eyes see is better than what the soul desires. This too is futility and a striving after wind.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Ecclesiastes 7:8-9, 27-28: &#8220;Better is the end of a thing than its beginning,
<br />
   and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.
<br />
Be not quick in your spirit to become angry,
<br />
    for anger lodges in the bosom of fools. [...] Behold, this is what I found, says the Preacher, while adding one thing to another to find the scheme of things— which my soul has sought repeatedly, but I have not found. One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found.&#8221; (ESV.)
</p>
<p>
Ecclesiastes 8:8: &#8220;No one has power over the spirit to retain the spirit, 
<br />
      And no one has power in the day of death. 
<br />
      There is no release from that war, 
<br />
      And wickedness will not deliver those who are given to it.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Song of Solomon 1:7: &#8220;&#8216;Tell me, O you whom my soul loves,
<br />
         Where do you pasture your flock,
<br />
         Where do you make it lie down at noon?
<br />
         For why should I be like one who veils herself
<br />
         Beside the flocks of your companions?&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Song of Solomon 3:1-4: &#8220;&#8216;On my bed night after night I sought him
<br />
         Whom my soul loves;
<br />
         I sought him but did not find him. 
<br />
    &#8216;I must arise now and go about the city;
<br />
         In the streets and in the squares
<br />
         I must seek him whom my soul loves.&#8217;
<br />
         I sought him but did not find him. 
<br />
    &#8216;The watchmen who make the rounds in the city found me,
<br />
         And I said, &#8216;Have you seen him whom my soul loves?&#8217; 
<br />
    &#8216;Scarcely had I left them
<br />
         When I found him whom my soul loves;
<br />
         I held on to him and would not let him go
<br />
         Until I had brought him to my mother&#8217;s house,
<br />
         And into the room of her who conceived me.&#8217;&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Song of Solomon 5:6: &#8220;I opened to my beloved,
<br />
   but my beloved had turned and gone.
<br />
My soul failed me when he spoke. I sought him, but found him not;
<br />
    I called him, but he gave no answer.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 10:18: &#8220;And He will destroy the glory of his forest and of his fruitful garden, both soul and body,
<br />
         And it will be as when a sick man wastes away.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 15:4: &#8220;Heshbon and Elealeh also cry out,
<br />
         Their voice is heard all the way to Jahaz;
<br />
         Therefore the armed men of Moab cry aloud;
<br />
         His soul trembles within him.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 19:10: &#8220;And the pillars of Egypt will be crushed;
<br />
         All the hired laborers will be grieved in soul.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 26:8-9: &#8220;Indeed, while following the way of Your judgments, O LORD,
<br />
         We have waited for You eagerly;
<br />
         Your name, even Your memory, is the desire of our souls. 
<br />
    At night my soul longs for You,
<br />
         Indeed, my spirit within me seeks You diligently;
<br />
         For when the earth experiences Your judgments
<br />
         The inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 38:12-13, 15-16: &#8220;Like a shepherd&#8217;s tent my dwelling is pulled up and removed from me;
<br />
         As a weaver I rolled up my life 
<br />
         He cuts me off from the loom;
<br />
         From day until night You make an end of me. 
<br />
    I composed my soul until morning.
<br />
         Like a lion--so He breaks all my bones,
<br />
         From day until night You make an end of me. [...] What shall I say?
<br />
         For He has spoken to me, and He Himself has done it;
<br />
         I will wander about all my years because of the bitterness of my soul. 
<br />
    O Lord, by these things men live,
<br />
         And in all these is the life of my spirit;
<br />
         O restore me to health and let me live!&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 42:5 &#8220;Thus says God the LORD,
<br />
         Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
<br />
         Who spread out the earth and its offspring,
<br />
         Who gives breath to the people on it
<br />
         And spirit to those who walk in it,&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 53:11-12: &#8220;Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied;by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
<br />
    make many to be accounted righteous,
<br />
    and he shall bear their iniquities.
<br />
 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many,
<br />
    and he shall divide the spoil with the strong,
<br />
because he poured out his soul to death
<br />
   and was numbered with the transgressors;
<br />
yet he bore the sin of many,
<br />
   and makes intercession for the transgressors.&#8221; (ESV.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 55:2-3: &#8220;Why do you spend money for what is not bread, 
<br />
      And your wages for what does not satisfy? 
<br />
      Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, 
<br />
      And let your soul delight itself in abundance. 
<br />
        Incline your ear, and come to Me. 
<br />
      Hear, and your soul shall live; 
<br />
      And I will make an everlasting covenant with you— 
<br />
      The sure mercies of David.&#8221; (NKJV.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 57:15-16: &#8220;For thus says the high and exalted One
<br />
         Who lives forever, whose name is Holy,
<br />
         &#8216;I dwell on a high and holy place,
<br />
         And also with the contrite and lowly of spirit
<br />
         In order to revive the spirit of the lowly
<br />
         And to revive the heart of the contrite. 
<br />
    &#8216;For I will not contend forever,
<br />
         Nor will I always be angry;
<br />
         For the spirit would grow faint before Me,
<br />
         And the breath of those whom I have made.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 61:10: &#8220;I will rejoice greatly in the LORD,
<br />
         My soul will exult in my God;
<br />
         For He has clothed me with garments of salvation,
<br />
         He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness,
<br />
         As a bridegroom decks himself with a garland,
<br />
         And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 65:14: &#8220;Behold, My servants will shout joyfully with a glad heart,
<br />
         But you will cry out with a heavy heart,
<br />
         And you will wail with a broken spirit.&#8221; (NASB.)
</p>
<p>
Isaiah 66:3: &#8220;&#8216;But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
<br />
         He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog&#8217;s neck;
<br />
         He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine&#8217;s blood;
<br />
         He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol 
<br />
         As they have chosen their own ways,
<br />
         And their soul delights in their abominations,&#8221; (NASB.)</p></blockquote>
<p>
<b>Continued in next post...</b>
</p>
<p>
Jeremy
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      <title>&#8220;Adventists and Muslims: Five Convictions&#8221;</title>
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        <p>In the same issue of <i>Adventist World</i> that contains the article that Stan posted about in <a href="http://www.forthegospel.org/forum/viewthread/352/P180/">this thread</a>, the current February 2010 edition, there is also an incredible article entitled &#8220;Adventists and Muslims: Five Convictions
<br />
How to build on what we have in common,&#8221; written by William Johnsson (former editor of the <i>Adventist Review</i>).
</p>
<p>
Here are some excerpts from it (emphasis mine):
</p>
<blockquote><p>Several months ago I received a message totally outside my previous frame of reference: a spiritual leader of many thousands of Muslims in several countries, <b>a sheikh, stated that God had given him a vision about Adventists</b>. He had made contact with lay Adventists; now he was asking to meet with leaders from the General Conference. [...]
</p>
<p>
[...]
</p>
<p>
The following day the sheikh and I met to consider what topic should form the basis for the discussions with the larger group. Almost immediately we settled on the Second Coming. We decided to ask each side to prepare short papers on the general topic of Jesus’ return, on the signs of the Second Coming, and on the antichrist. Then came the moment I had been waiting for. <b>“Sir,” I asked, “is it true that you received a vision about Seventh-day Adventists?”
<br />
 
<br />
“Not one, but three,” he replied. “All three had the same message: Seventh-day Adventists are the true People of the Book [a term from the Koran, designating followers of Allah who are not Muslims]. Adventists already are God’s people, so do not try to convert them. Instead, work with them</b>.”
<br />
 
<br />
[...]
</p>
<p>
I turn now to a second conviction: Seventh-day Adventists are uniquely positioned to bring the gospel to Muslims.
<br />
 
<br />
<b>Adventists have the following advantages over other Christians in taking the good news to Muslims</b>:
<br />
 
<br />
<b>The place of the Scriptures. <u>We base our practices and beliefs on the Bible and the Bible alone</u></b>. This devotion and loyalty to the revealed Word impresses Muslims, who look to the Koran as God’s revelation.
</p>
<p>
[...]
</p>
<p>
A reform movement. We understand our message to be not a new one but a return to the teachings of the Bible. <b>We are completing the partially realized reformation begun by Luther, Calvin, and the other stalwarts of yesteryear</b>. Muslims also consider themselves to be part of a work of reformation.
</p>
<p>
These nine features uniquely position Adventists to establish relations with Muslims at all levels and to advance our divinely appointed mission of taking the gospel to the whole world. But we are not well known in the Islamic world; indeed, we are hardly known at all. <b><u>When Muslims hear of Christians, they immediately think of pork-eating, alcohol-imbibing, loose-living men and women who side with Israel</u></b>.
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<br />
A major task with which we must grapple is to educate Muslims as to who we are and what we stand for. When that is done, attitudes change from disbelief to amazement, to appreciation, to warm acceptance.
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<b><u>In meeting Muslim leaders, I emphasize from the outset that I prefer to be known as an Adventist rather than as a Christian. For Muslims the name “Christian” carries such negative associations—associations that do not belong with Seventh-day Adventists—that I would rather avoid the term</u></b>. And “Adventist” captures well the driving pulse of who we are—our hope in Jesus’ return and sense of divine calling to tell it to the world. 
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[...]
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<p>
Among the negative stereotypes and myths about Muslims to which our people are subject are the following:
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[...]
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<b>“Allah” is the name of a pagan deity. This myth is quickly disproved</b> by a study of etymology. “Allah” is simply the Arabic term for God, was so used by Arab Christians before Muhammad, and is still so used. Because Islam arose among Arabs and the Koran is written in Arabic, inevitably the name “Allah” was adopted to designate God.
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[...]
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<p>
In recent months I have become acquainted with an Adventist businesswoman who bears a burden for work with Muslims. This was not always the case; in fact, she grew up disliking Muslims, but the Lord changed her heart. <b>She confided to me that previously she wore expensive jewelry, but as she began to be involved with Muslims, with their emphasis on modesty, she felt she must remove the jewelry, eventually disposing of it.
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Here, perhaps, is a parable of what could happen on a large scale as Adventists reach out to Muslims.</b> 
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William G. Johnsson is assistant to the General Conference president for interfaith relations.</p></blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.adventistworld.org/issue.php?issue=2010-1002&amp;page=11">http://www.adventistworld.org/issue.php?issue=2010-1002&amp;page=11</a>
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<p>
Well, okay, if they don&#8217;t want to be known as &#8220;Christian,&#8221; then so be it. Wow. There are just so many incredible things in the above excerpts.
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<p>
What do you all think?
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<p>
Jeremy
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    <entry>
      <title>Hark! The Herald Angels Sing</title>
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      <published>2009-12-13T14:38:25Z</published>
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        <p>Since leaving Adventism, I have to come to really appreciate the Christmas carol &#8220;Hark! The Herald Angels Sing&#8221; and the wonderful lyrics that it contains. It certainly exalts the Lord Jesus as the one and only true God. Here are the first three verses of the hymn:
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<blockquote><p>Hark! The herald angels sing,
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“Glory to the newborn King;
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Peace on earth, and mercy mild,
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God and sinners reconciled!”
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Joyful, all ye nations rise,
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Join the triumph of the skies;
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With th’angelic host proclaim,
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“Christ is born in Bethlehem!”
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Refrain
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Hark! the herald angels sing,
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“Glory to the newborn King!”
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Christ, by highest Heav’n adored;
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Christ the everlasting Lord;
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Late in time, behold Him come,
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Offspring of a virgin’s womb.
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<b>Veiled in flesh the Godhead see;
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Hail th’incarnate Deity,</b>
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Pleased with us in flesh to dwell,
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Jesus our Emmanuel.
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Refrain
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Hail the heav’nly Prince of Peace!
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Hail the Sun of Righteousness!
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Light and life to all He brings,
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Ris’n with healing in His wings.
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Mild He lays His glory by,
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Born that man no more may die.
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Born to raise the sons of earth,
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Born to give them second birth.
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--<a href="http://nethymnal.org/htm/h/h/a/hhangels.htm">http://nethymnal.org/htm/h/h/a/hhangels.htm</a></p></blockquote>
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The truths of this song clearly refute several SDA teachings. In fact, the SDAs seem to have recognized this. Today I was disgusted to find (although I had known this before) that the SDAs, in the official SDA Hymnal, have (as they&#8217;ve done with many other hymns) completely changed the wording (since they defend EGW&#8217;s plagiarism, I guess they also have no problem with &#8220;reverse plagiarism&#8221;!). In the official SDA Hymnal, they have totally deleted the references to Jesus&#8217; full deity in the second verse of this carol, and replaced those lines with other words. Here is the song as it appears in the SDA Hymnal:
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<blockquote><p>1
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Hark! the herald angels sing, 
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&#8220;Glory to the new born King, 
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peace on earth, and mercy mild, 
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God and sinners reconciled!&#8221; 
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Joyful, all ye nations rise, 
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join the triumph of the skies; 
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with th&#8217; angelic host proclaim, 
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&#8220;Christ is born in Bethlehem!&#8221; 
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Hark! the herald angels sing, 
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&#8220;Glory to the new born King!&#8221; 
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2
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Christ, by highest heaven adored; 
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Christ, the everlasting Lord; 
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in the manger born a king, 
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while adoring angels sing,
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<b>&#8220;Peace on earth, to men good will;&#8221;
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bid the trembling soul be still,</b>
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Christ on earth has come to dwell,
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Jesus, our Immanuel!
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Hark! the herald angels sing, 
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&#8220;Glory to the newborn King!&#8221; 
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3
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Hail the heaven-born Prince of Peace! 
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Hail the Sun of Righteousness! 
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Light and life to all he brings, 
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risen with healing in his wings. 
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Mild he lays his glory by, 
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born that we no more may die, 
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born to raise us from the earth, 
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born to give us second birth. 
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Hark! the herald angels sing, 
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&#8220;Glory to the new born King!&#8221;
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--<a href="http://www.digitalhymnal.org/dhymn.cfm?hymnNumber=122">http://www.digitalhymnal.org/dhymn.cfm?hymnNumber=122</a></p></blockquote>
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Notice how they have changed the two lines:
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&#8220;Veiled in flesh the Godhead see;
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Hail th’incarnate Deity,&#8221; 
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to 
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&#8220;&#8216;Peace on earth, to men good will;&#8217;
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bid the trembling soul be still,&#8221;
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<p>
This is beyond despicable--but should not be too shocking, since Adventism simply rejects the teaching contained in those lines. (By the way, the LDS hymnal simply leaves out the second verse.)
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<p>
If Adventism actually believes in the full deity of Christ (that He is the only true God), then why would they carefully delete such references from their Hymnal?
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<p>
But those aren&#8217;t the only changes they made to this hymn. Notice that they also changed:
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<p>
&#8220;Late in time, behold Him come,
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Offspring of a virgin’s womb.
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[...]
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Pleased with us in flesh to dwell,&#8221;
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to
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&#8220;in the manger born a king, 
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while adoring angels sing,
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[...]
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Christ on earth has come to dwell,&#8221;
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In other words, due to their Gnostic/Nestorian beliefs, they get rid of the fact that Christ actually became a man and has come in the flesh (one person--Jesus Christ--with two inseparable natures, divine and human).
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<p>
And then, in the last three lines of the third verse, they change:
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&#8220;Born that <b>man</b> no more may die.
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Born to raise <b>the sons of</b> earth,
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Born to give <b>them</b> second birth.&#8221;
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to
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&#8220;born that <b>we</b> no more may die, 
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born to raise <b>us <u>from</u> the</b> earth, 
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born to give <b>us</b> second birth.&#8221;
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(Changes in bold.)
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<p>
Here, for the third verse, they use an alternate version, so that they can speak of the resurrection (actually &#8220;re-creation") of the righteous instead of the new birth (being born again). Since they teach that the promise of Jesus ("everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die"--John 11:26 NASB) is actually &#8220;the devil&#8217;s first lie"--they can&#8217;t have &#8220;that man no more may die&#8221; be referring to the new birth!
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<p>
One way to see what Adventism really teaches is to simply look at what they do with the lyrics of the classic hymns of the Christian faith.
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And they simply refuse to accept Jesus as the one true God.
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<p>
Jeremy
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    <entry>
      <title>THE GOSPEL OF GRACE    REFORMED PRAISE SONGS</title>
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        <p>There is a great new website shich features beautiful songs of reformation based praise songs:
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Here is a beautiful song called &#8220;The Gospel of Grace&#8221;
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<a href="http://www.reformedpraise.org/index.php?p=659">http://www.reformedpraise.org/index.php?p=659</a>
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<p>
There are a lot of other wonderful God glorifying songs to listen to.
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<p>
Soli Deo Gloria!
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<p>
Stan
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    <entry>
      <title>Substitutionary Atonement</title>
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        <p>I&#8217;m a &#8220;fan&#8221; of Ligonier Ministries on my Facebook account and today a short article was posted on my wall that I thought was pretty good so wanted to share it here.
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<blockquote><p><u>Ligonier Ministries: Accepting the Atonement of the Cross</u>
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The apostle Paul wasn’t even present at the crucifixion of Christ, yet he declared that this act was an act of cosmic and supernatural proportions. This was a real drama of theological redemption. Here the curse of God’s law was visited on a man who bore the sins of His people. For Paul, the crucifixion was the pivotal point of all history. Paul was not satisfied to give an account of the event. While affirming the historicity of the crucifixion, Paul added the apostolic interpretation of the meaning of the event. He set forth propositions about the death of Christ.
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<p>
The issue before the church is this: Is the apostolic propositional interpretation of the cross correct or not? Is Paul’s view merely a first-century Jewish scholar’s speculation on the matter, or is it a view inspired by God Himself?
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What difference does it make? This is not a trifling matter or a pedantic point of Christian doctrine. Here nothing less than salvation is at stake. To reject the biblical view of atonement is to reject the atonement itself. To reject the atonement is to reject Christ. To reject Christ is to perish in your sin.
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<p>
Please let us not soften this with an appeasing dance. Let us be clear. Those teachers in the church who deny that the death of Christ was a supernatural act of atonement are simply not Christians. They are enemies of Christ who trample Jesus underfoot and crucify Him afresh.&nbsp; 
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<p>
Coram Deo: Make this declaration: “Heavenly Father, I accept without reservation the supernatural atonement of Jesus Christ on the cross.”  
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<p>
Galatians 6:14: “But God forbid that I should glory except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.” 
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<p>
John 3:16–17: “For God so loved that world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”</p></blockquote>
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I can&#8217;t help but wonder what those who teach or profess belief in a moral influence theory of the atonement are putting their trust in.&nbsp; Can anyone who denies the substitutionary nature of the atonement really be called a Christian?
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