Conviction vs. Preference
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CONVICTION vs. PREFERENCE
Spirit of Truth Ministry Staff Writer R. J. Humpal, JD
The U.S. Supreme Court said some very particular things about our beliefs. Therefore, your testimony in the courtroom and to others becomes quite critical. The Court said a man can’t hold those beliefs if he can’t describe them. A belief is not a hunch or feeling and it is not “it seems to me.”
The Court asked; “well, why do you believe that? Show me proof of you beliefs in the Bible.” Most people will say; “I don’t even know if it is in the Bible but it just seems to me ...” The Court says that the problem with “well it seems to me” is that feelings change rapidly and as a consequence they are not going to honor hunches, feelings or “it seems to me.” You must be able to take your beliefs from the Bible and make them oral.
The second thing the Court said is that you must be able to have knowledge of those beliefs. This becomes important because we like to hide behind a title. We say, “I am a Seventh-day Adventist.” “I am a Christian.” Those are descriptive terms. Can you tell the Court what that means? It is not simply enough to tell the Court a general term. You must tell the Court what those terms mean. In this matter of many beliefs and believers, the Court suddenly realized there had to be a test. It said there must be a way that we can determine which beliefs are to be upheld and which beliefs will not be honored and protected by the First Amendment.
In 1972, the Court came down with a test and ironically they came down with the test in a case, which involved Christian education. A man named Jonas Yoder, who lived in the State of Wisconsin, was an Amish man. He told the State of Wisconsin “I am not going to send my children to your schools anymore.” The state of Wisconsin said, in effect, “you can’t do that. You have to send your children to our schools.” Yoder replied, “I don’t think you hear me. I am not going to send my children to your schools.” The state said, in effect, “Mr. Yoder, if you don’t send your children to our schools, we will have to arrest you. Do you want us to arrest you?” Mr. Yoder said “No.” They said, “Have you ever been arrested before?” He said “No.” They said “Send your children to our schools.” He said “I don’t think you heard me. I am not going to send my children to your schools.”
I don’t know if you have ever talked to a stubborn Amish man, but you might as well talk to the backside of a barn for the result you are going to get. They said basically “Look, if we arrest you and we win, you could go to jail.” He said, “I don’t want to go to jail.” They said, “Put your children in our schools.” He said, “I am not going to send my children to your schools.” They said, “If you don’t do it and we win the court case you will be put in jail and once in jail you could even lose your children.” He said, “I wouldn’t like any of that.” Then they said “Well, put your kids in the school.” He said, “I don’t think you understand. My religious beliefs prohibit that I do that.”
They took him to Court and he didn’t fare so well. He lost and they said; “Now you had your day in Court. Send your kids to our school.” He said, “I am not going to.”
He found out a very interesting thing. He didn’t give up. He lost his appeal and they said, “Send your kids.” And he said, “I am not going to do it.” Finally, he got to the US Supreme Court and they said to Jonas Yoder “You don’t have to send your kids to that school because the First Amendment protects you.” With this case, they laid down the test that is now to be used on all subsequent cases to determine which beliefs are to be protected and which are not to be protected.
The first thing the Court did in defining the test was to say this; “It doesn’t matter what your belief structure is, or who you are, every single religious belief you have is one of two types.” They said it is either a CONVICTION or a PREFERENCE. The Court said that is all there is. We don’t find that there is any other type of belief. And, it is clear that the ‘Court of Heaven’ agrees!
Then the Court went on to define the two for us, because in the United States of America, only CONVICTIONS are protected by the constitution. PREFERENCES are not. 
What is a PREFERENCE? This is a very, very strong belief. It is a belief that you hold with great intensity and strength. In fact, that belief can be so strongly held that you can go into full time service in the name of that belief. You can be a minister, a Christian schoolteacher or a missionary. Indeed, this is a strong belief. The second thing that makes this belief strong is that it is a belief that you can hold with such intensity that you give up all or most of your wealth for it. I don’t know very many people who have given everything, but the Court said you could do that and still have only a preference.
The third thing is that your belief can have such strength and fiber to it you can be energetic in proselytizing other people. You can stand on the street corner and witness. The Court said you could have all of that zeal and still only have a PREFERENCE.
Then notice one final thing. They said you could be so convinced that this belief is good that you want to teach it to your children. Now that is a very important thing. I sat next to a man on a plane one day and he was telling me all about his troubles with his business and how his personal life had degenerated. And then we started talking about his son and he said he really wants his son to go to the same school he went to and undergo the same training he had and run the same business he was running. I asked that man “did running this business and going to that school bring you any happiness or satisfaction?” He said, “not much.” I said, “then why would you want that same thing for your son?” He said, “I don’t know, I just thought it would be a good idea.”
I think he wished on his son the same thing that had been wished on him. We have the same problem with our faith. We hold it very dear and as a matter of that endearment, we want our children to have it because we believe that ‘faith’ can take them to a home in heaven and give them a Christian lifestyle that is meaningful. The Court said you could believe all of that and still only have a PREFERENCE.
Here is what makes a ‘belief’ a PREFERENCE. It is a very strong belief, but it is a belief that you will change. In fact, it is just like having ‘faith’ instead of knowing the truth.  ‘Faith’ allows one to ‘believe’ in a lie and not feel guilty about searching for, and finding the truth. You prefer it. That is why we call it a PREFERENCE. But you will change that belief and/or faith under some circumstances.  The courts have reviewed these circumstances and have found some circumstances that cause people to change their beliefs.
Circumstance number one is called ‘peer pressure’. A minister studies the Bible and says to himself, “here is something I know I must do.” He resolves in his heart that he is going to do it. Then he goes out to his friends, other ministers and people in his congregation and states, “this is what I am going to do.” The other ministers say, “Hold on just a minute. You may be right. We don’t say that you are wrong. But couldn’t you tone it down just a little bit? Couldn’t you fix it so that we could cooperate with you? You have to be more tolerant. Couldn’t you come around just a little bit so that is not so offensive to us and maybe you could still get done what you wanted to do.” That minister said, “This is what I believe.” Then little by little he bends. And he proves that what he first said was a PREFERENCE. He preferred it. He wanted to do it. He resolved to do it. But he changed. The Court said that if you can change that belief, that belief or ‘faith’ is only a PREFERENCE.
Now bear this in mind. If a person can ever show you from the Bible where you should change something, then you must change it. But we are talking about peer pressure causing good men to change. The Court said if that if you will change it, it is only a PREFERENCE. There is another area we see peer pressure all the time. Ministers and leaders in the Church come to us and say “I agree with everything you are saying but how am I going to go home and sell that to the congregation back at the church? The people in the church may not agree.” That minister or leader knows what he believes is right but the pressure of the people in his congregation causes him to bend. The Court said if you could do that, you only have a PREFERENCE.
Secondly, a cause of change may be by family pressure. This is probably one of the strongest pressures I know of. A man says, “This is what I am going to do.” His wife says, “Please don’t. Maybe you know what is right, but please don’t. We just got everything settled, let’s not blow it wide open again.” And, as a consequence, that man changes his beliefs. The Court said if ‘family pressure’ will cause you to change, then your beliefs are only PREFERENCES.
A third area of strong pressure that brings out preferences is a threat of a lawsuit. I have heard a lot of people say, “I am for this but I am just not going to get sued over it. Can you imagine what people will say or what they are going to do if I get sued?”
In Jesus’ day there were Scribes and Pharisees. We have ‘Scribes’ with us today. They run the newspapers. These men know that what they write in the newspapers can ‘hang’ them. They know that most of the people in their church will not understand why they are going to take a stand that will cause them to be sued. They know that most of their family members are going to criticize them and perhaps disinherit them or leave.
People talk about Levi Whisner and his great victory in Ohio. People also talk about Roy Foster and his great victory in Concord, New Hampshire. What nobody likes to talk about are ministers who have churches of about one hundred and then get reduced by fifty percent. Or a minister with a church of 500 reduced to 50, not to mention the loss of a paycheck from the church headquarters!  Could you do that or would you say, “I’m just not going to take a stand that is going to cause me to get sued or lose a paycheck, because I don’t want to see that happen.”
IF anything would cause you to change your beliefs or ‘faith’ other than what God requires of you, it is only a PREFERENCE.
The next area the Court noted that caused people to change was the threat of jail and prison. Would you go to jail for a matter of your belief or faith? Not many are going to understand why you have gone. If you read the histories of the great men of the ‘faith’, when they went to jail, hardly anyone understood why they went. Although many of the great men of the ‘faith’ did go at one time or another, would being arrested and going to jail cause you to change your beliefs? If it would, then your beliefs are PREFERENCS.
Let me ask you one other question because it is right on point. You say, “I will go to jail.” You probably don’t fully understand what you are talking about, but nonetheless you say I believe I could. Would you, as a man, watch your wife go to jail? Levi Whisner faced that. Levi and his wife even made plans for who was going to take care of their children while he and his wife were incarcerated.
The question is therefore, what does that (your) belief or ‘faith’ mean to you? If you say that you want to do it, but have the right not to do it if you don’t want to do it, the Court said that is not protected by the Constitution.
The last thing the Court said is, “A man has to be prepared to die for his belief or faith.” Is that belief or faith changeable? Yes, there are many things in this life worse than dying, and denying the faith, IF that faith has turned into truth, is one of them. Basically, the Court said, “Would you be willing to die for your beliefs?”
A CONVICTION on the other hand, is a belief in truth (knowing truth) that you will not and could not change. It is NOT blind ‘faith’. Why? What creates a conviction? The Court said only one thing. A CONVICTION is when a man knows the truth and that God requires it of him. A knowledge of/in truth that is God ordered is a CONVICTION. It is a matter of knowing with all of your heart and mind that God requires something of you. The Court said, “When you KNOW that your God has required something of you, you will withstand all of the tests they have spoken about.” The Court said that the first thing you should decide, is your belief or faith a CONVICTION or is it a PREFERENCE? Is it the truth and God ordered? PREFERENCES are simply not protected by the constitution.
The Court noted another interesting point about this and it parallels with a story in scripture about the three Hebrews found in Daniel in the Old Testament; Shadrack. Meshack and Abednego. The Court said a CONVICTION is not something you only ‘discover’. It is something you ‘purpose’. It is not something you accidentally come across, but something you purpose in your heart as a fabric of your belief system. The Court said your CONVICTIONS will be ‘purposed’.
When you study the history of the three Hebrews found in the third chapter of Daniel, you will find that they did a strange thing. When taken into captivity, Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego purposed in their hearts not to defile themselves. It was something about which they determined with resolve. The Court said you must determine your convictions or else those CONVICTIONS will not be there. If you require people to stand with you before you will stand, your beliefs are PREFERENCES and not CONVICTIONS.
Today we see many well-meaning ministers, pastors, teachers and leaders in our Church say, “I believe that I ought to stand on this issue but I will only stand if the head office or the General Conference tells me I should stand. If my Church school organization tells me I should stand and if I can find some other people to stand with me, then I will stand.” The question has to be asked, “As great as those people may be, what do they have to do with what God requires of you?” If other people have to stand with you before you will stand, your beliefs are only PREFERENCES and not CONVICTIONS.
You do remember what happened to the three Hebrews? They were taken before the king and the king was very upset. He said, “Do you know what you have done?” Before they could even answer the king, he did a strange thing. He broke the law. He said, “I am going to give you a second chance. The next time, when those instruments play, if you bend down (worship) all will be well. If not, nobody is going to deliver you out my hands. You are walking dead men.”
Now you know what I think most of us would have done. I believe most of us would have said, “Praise the Lord, we are alive! We are breathing! God has given us another chance!” We would have been excited. The three Hebrews did not do that. They said “King, we don’t have to be careful how we answer you because if you give us another chance or not, nothing is going to change. We have resolved we are not going to bow and that is not going to change.” What the three Hebrews were telling the king is, “This matter of our understanding of the truth is non-negotiable!” The Court said if you can discuss the negotiation of your faith, your faith is a matter of PREFERENCE and not CONVICTION because CONVICTIONS are non-negotiable.
Why? How do you negotiate something that is God ordered? The Court said you can’t. So if they can get you into a dialogue where you negotiate, the Court said this is a matter of PREFERENCE and not CONVICTION.
Lets recall what the three Hebrews said because it is right on point. “King, we KNOW that our God can deliver us, but even if you throw us into that furnace and God does not deliver us, we are not going to bow.” What they were saying to the king is “whether we come out of the furnace or not our true beliefs stand firm.” The Court said if you must be assured of victory before you stand, your beliefs are PREFERENCES and not CONVICTIONS.
This is the test they are narrowing in on more and more because most of us are more concerned with ‘winning’ then with ‘standing’. Bear this in mind; A true Christian does not defend his beliefs or the ‘faith’, he defends the TRUTH. When Levi Whisner went to trial and lost, he still won. When he appealed and lost, he won. When he went to the Supreme Court of the State of Ohio and they unanimously said he was right, he was right all along. A Court does not tell us whether we are right or wrong. We are right as long as we honor God and can prove it from the bible.  When your belief disagree with someone else’s belief, at lest one of you is wrong.  Levi recognized this and confirmed it in his heart.
Therefore, it should be remembered, that when a man who is honestly mistaken hears or sees the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease being honest.
However, we have another problem and this problem is that many times people don’t tell the truth. In the courtroom we see people lie all the time. When vowing to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, many people are incredibly casual with the truth! The Court has recognized this. The Court said there must be a way to know whether or not you are telling the truth. How can they do this? How do they know if you have PREFERENCE or CONVICTION? This is the test. A CONVICTION, they say, will always show up in a person’s lifestyle. They said, “What is on the inside of a man is always going to show on the outside of a man. You do not have the right to say you have a CONVICTION unless we can somehow see that you are living that CONVICTION with some element of consistency.
Problem is, when they begin to apply the test, people began to squirm. They ask, “Do they have this right?” The Bible states a strange thing about this. Found in the book of James, “Don’t tell me about your faith, show me your faith.” Why? Because “faith without works is dead.” It is like a body without the spirit. It may be there, but it is meaningless. It is ‘dead’. Because the thing that provides the breath that gives life to our faith is our works. If that is absent, then it is all useless. Therefore the Court came back and said “We need to see your belief and/or faith in action and we need to see it in order to prove that it is sincerely a CONVICTION.”
What we need to learn is this: If we say that our belief or faith is a matter of CONVICTION, then where did, and now do, we get our CONVICTIONS from? Where do we get all our beliefs and faith?  Don’t we get them from the Bible? When a child comes to Church school for the first time, don’t we teach that child that to disobey what the Bible says is a sin? Could it be that the Court says the opposite of CONVICTION is SIN?  You must be able to make a stand and prove it from the Bible. And you must keep standing for that or else it is not a conviction. If the Bible requires it, it is God ordered. If it is God ordered, it is a CONVICTION. If it is a CONVICTION and if God ordered it, what is it called not to do it? It is a sin, because it is disobedience to what God has ordered. This is only one classic definition of sin.
So before you say something is a CONVICTION, you must be prepared to prove it and to take a stand to say if I don’t take a stand it would be a sin. If you say “I have a CONVICTION about certain matters of a Christian lifestyle - the refraining from the use of alcohol - you must then say that the opposite is a sin or it is not a CONVICTION. A person who says “I believe I ought to do something, but I think I should be more tolerant, a little more open minded about this,” his beliefs are only a PREFERENCE and the Court says “make up your mind what you believe!”
Remember what I said: “Knowledge about your beliefs is critical in the courtroom. It is also critical before the Lord!” You must be able to determine what you believe. You must tell the Court whether you hold them as PREFERENCES or CONVICTIONS and you must be able to explain to the Court that the opposite of these CONVICTIONS is SIN! What happens if you don’t tell them it is a sin? You have a good chance of losing!
Bear this in mind. In Court you must take an oath to tell the truth. How are you going to answer this question? “Witness, isn’t it true you were afraid of the effects of your beliefs? Would your words and actions for your beliefs upset your family? If you made a stand, would you upset some of the congregation of your church and perhaps they would leave? Were you afraid that the people who did not agree with your beliefs or understand your beliefs in your congregation, but are good givers, might be offended? Were you afraid of what the repercussions would be? Did you think that you should be more tolerant? Isn’t that why you didn’t say what you should have?” The Court said if you say you have a CONVICTION make sure that you do. Otherwise the Court becomes a very painful place to be trapped with those CONVICTIONS.
Also bear in mind the Court said you don’t have to believe everything. However, if you do say you believe something and if you say that it’s a CONVICTION, then the Court will hold you at such level that when others look at your life they can see it. You know what would happen if you took a stand that you don’t believe in drinking an alcoholic beverage and then were arrested for DUI? The Court would say, “The man’s crazy. He says one thing and does another.”
When someone points out something in the Bible to you, do you investigate to see if it is the truth?  Can you truthfully answer this question; “Is the whole Bible the inspired Word of God or the Word of God?” If you only have ‘faith’ that it is without fully investigating, then not only would you would be calling God a liar if it isn’t, but your beliefs or ‘faith’ will not be able to stand up in Court, much less, the Court of God.  Are not we supposed to test the spirits?  What about the authors of the New Testament?  Could the Master of Deception place a false Apostle’s writings in the New Testament?  Well, if he could get to Eve and Adam, then it keep in mind that it would have been a simple trick to force a totally evil man, bent on murder, to believe that the visions he was forced to receive (inspire), were the visions of Jesus.  If you will diligently study, you will also have to agree that this person preached his own gospel, (which was different than the gospel Jesus taught), did away with the Ten Commandments, and made ‘grace’ and/or ‘faith’ the only way for salvation; “My grace is sufficient” (2nd Cor. 12:9).  If so, then where do you find grace in the ‘Ten Virgin’ story, and why hasn’t Jesus returned already?
Learn the test for the truth!  Your eternal life depends upon it!

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Posted: 08 August 2007 04:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Richard Humpal wrote:

“Can you truthfully answer this question; “Is the whole Bible the inspired Word of God or the Word of God?” If you only have ‘faith’ that it is without fully investigating, then not only would you would be calling God a liar if it isn’t, but your beliefs or ‘faith’ will not be able to stand up in Court, much less, the Court of God. Are not we supposed to test the spirits? What about the authors of the New Testament? Could the Master of Deception place a false Apostle’s writings in the New Testament? Well, if he could get to Eve and Adam, then it keep in mind that it would have been a simple trick to force a totally evil man, bent on murder, to believe that the visions he was forced to receive (inspire), were the visions of Jesus. If you will diligently study, you will also have to agree that this person preached his own gospel, (which was different than the gospel Jesus taught), did away with the Ten Commandments, and made ‘grace’ and/or ‘faith’ the only way for salvation; “My grace is sufficient” (2nd Cor. 12:9). If so, then where do you find grace in the ‘Ten Virgin’ story, and why hasn’t Jesus returned already?
Learn the test for the truth! Your eternal life depends upon it!
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Respectfully Richard Humpal, I have this to say to you:

‘If you believe that the Apostle Paul was a false apostle, and that his epistles were false, then I will say that you do not have eternal life. There is no person who can be saved by rejecting the clear words of scripture. Revelation 22:18,19 makes it abundantly clear that those who either subtract or add to the Words of scripture will not inherit eternal life. You will be with the crowd that is calling for the rocks to fall on you, and you will have your part in the lake of fire. You have called the absolute words of God spoken through Paul as being of Satan. This is a blasphemous idea. I am calling on you to repent of these ideas before it is too late. Come to the cross of Christ, and submit your heart and your will to the Lord Jesus’

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Posted: 08 August 2007 04:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I am fascinated in a way by Richard Humpal’s line of reasoning.

The question would have to be asked in this case, as Humpal is a lawyer, ‘Is Humpal just being honest in coming to the conclusion that the New Covenant gospel of grace is totally opposed to Humpal’s own historic SDA views?

Typically most SDAs will try to explain away Paul’s clear statements on the Sabbath being fulfilled in Christ. But this historical SDA is just reading Paul literally like many who take scripture as it reads literally, and is coming to the conclusion that since Paul advocated the abrogation of the food laws and the 24 hour Sabbath, then, therefore this is just Satan’s master deception in influencing those who put together the canon of scripture, to include Paul’s writings?

But it is clear that the apostle Peter, who was a direct eye witness of Jesus, also clearly testified that Paul’s writings were scripture. Humpal is trying to argue that only eye witnesses of Jesus life would write valid gospels or scriptures. Well Peter testified of Paul’s clear witness to truth. So Mr. Humpal has no where to go with his arguments. He just does not want to accept the clear words of Paul and of scripture, because it interferes with his historic SDA viewpoint.

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Posted: 08 August 2007 04:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Stan, you have said it well.  Paul’s gospel harmonizes beautifully with the teachings of Jesus.  This should not surprise us, because Paul received the good news from Jesus himself (Galatians 1:11-12 ESV).  Paul compared his gospel with what Peter learned as a disciple of Jesus, and they found agreement (Galatians 1:18, Galatians 2:7-9).  Moreover, Peter placed Paul’s writings into the category of Scripture (2 Peter 3:15-16).

Mr. Humpal, we implore you on behalf of Christ, do not reject the gospel; do not reject the good news preached by the apostle Paul; do not create an argument between Jesus and Paul that does not exist outside of your own mind.

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Posted: 09 August 2007 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Posted anonymously by: John Douglas

Unless you’re into the study of the aberrant this disgustingly blasphemous pile of drivel is not worthy of any further comments.

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Posted: 09 August 2007 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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John,

Amen to your comments.  My jaw about hit the floor when I read the comments Stan quoted:

Are not we supposed to test the spirits? What about the authors of the New Testament? Could the Master of Deception place a false Apostle’s writings in the New Testament? Well, if he could get to Eve and Adam, then it keep in mind that it would have been a simple trick to force a totally evil man, bent on murder, to believe that the visions he was forced to receive (inspire), were the visions of Jesus.

When someone lowers the Apostle Paul to the level of Dahmer, Ramirez, Hitler, Bundy, etc., and declares him inspired by Satan, I have a hard time believing that person could be a regenerate Christian.  I know that sounds harsh, but these comments really are beyond the pale. 

Taken to it’s logical conclusion, what a weak and pitiful God we must serve who is not even sovereign enough to prevent Satan-inspired chunks of scripture from infecting in His Word and leading millions into aberrant theology and on to perdition.  Chalk one up for Satan, I guess.

Unbelievable, nasssty heresy.  I pray that this man will repent of this horrible blasphemy.

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Mr.Humpal,

really there is not much more to say, but I feel compelled to say it anyways.

I find it quite curious that you have gone to such great lengths to post on a website dedicated to sharing the Good News of the Gospel.

It seems strange that a person who is a non believer in the Holy Bible would even bother to take the time to type all that out.

All that being said, Jesus loves you, and knows your heart. May you receive the peace that passes understanding as you continue to study God’s Word. And may you find comfort in the promises found in God’s word.

The journey continues and my hope for you is, that as you continue to strive for greater understanding, you remain open to the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

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Posted: 17 August 2007 08:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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As further proof that Mr. Humpal is way off base, just read the details of Paul’s conversion experience at this link:

http://www.freewebs.com/peters-pearl/paulsconversionpti.htm

Stan

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